tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post5824819290055757164..comments2024-03-09T13:19:49.767-05:00Comments on House of Lime: Thus Saith Limelimehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17259558876349307173noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-29804967364555216762010-08-11T10:53:02.422-04:002010-08-11T10:53:02.422-04:00Oh, you know what I have to say
GGGGGGRrrrrOh, you know what I have to say<br /><br />GGGGGGRrrrrLogophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05791617221187190709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-86848757840893806872010-08-10T10:12:31.756-04:002010-08-10T10:12:31.756-04:00Go Lime! I want to know too, how was your comment ...Go Lime! I want to know too, how was your comment received?~Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06774944172261988587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-40870650804151454392010-08-09T21:28:08.887-04:002010-08-09T21:28:08.887-04:00I like men who don't consider it "helping...I like men who don't consider it "helping" but rather doing their fair share.secret agent womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03763879283931347382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-60532663506004144862010-08-09T19:58:27.638-04:002010-08-09T19:58:27.638-04:00The hidden subtexts are the assumptions the origin...The hidden subtexts are the assumptions the original audiences would have had. Marriage, for Paul and his audience, was a different institution, usually arranged, and primarily a business transaction to increase both the family and the family fortune. Love, though possible, was not a necessary condition.<br /><br />In the case of adultery and the Mosaic Law, the Law, though it sounds harsh, is really a <i>reform</i>. The adulterers shall be dealt with <i>according to the Law</i>. If my wife has an affair with your brother, say, <i>I</i> don't get to kill them, they will be dealt with officially under the Law.<br /><br />And further, I don't get to start a blood feud (so popular in that part of the world) and kill <i>you</i> on the theory that your family has dishonored mine. The adulterers will be dealt with under the Law and that will be the end of it. <i>Thus shall you purge the evil from out of Israel.</i><br /><br />That's the sort of thing I mean.Crickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584174478393760131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-47020627641169235902010-08-09T16:13:58.803-04:002010-08-09T16:13:58.803-04:00What "hidden subtext" is Cricket referri...What "hidden subtext" is Cricket referring to?Craver Viihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12882284402568264182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-46237982807791154982010-08-09T15:22:56.468-04:002010-08-09T15:22:56.468-04:00Poor old Paul really takes a beating, huh? I supp...Poor old Paul really takes a beating, huh? I suppose it isn't always clear how he felt about women in general - though I suspect he was less misogynistic than he has been made out to be. He certainly has been used to justify attitudes that aren't so good, though.<br /><br />One important consideration in this particular passage is the <i>function</i> of marriage in Paul's world. It's easy to forget that marriages were usually arranged. <i>Husbands, love your wives. Wives, submit to your husbands</i> is much more radical than it sounds to us. Paul is preaching love and acceptance where none would be expected; there was no assumption that a husband and wife wanted each other to begin with.<br /><br />There's a similar "hidden subtext" in having the death penalty prescribed for adultery. Sounds harsh, but what's missing is this: the people who did the deed will be killed <i>and no one else</i>. You don't get to go all Hatfield and McCoy on each other because of some slight to your "family honor" or some such...<br /><br />Funny how you don't hear too many calls from the right-wing to bring <i>that</i> one back. Might thin out the ranks too much, heh, heh.Crickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584174478393760131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-66077577247751666362010-08-09T14:20:03.058-04:002010-08-09T14:20:03.058-04:00I think you're right on target. Craig's c...I think you're right on target. Craig's comments ring true as well.<br /><br />The phrase "and gave himself up for her" does not mean that we should ignore everything that came before it. Husbands are to love their wives just as Christ loved the church. There's a whole heap loaded into those first few words, and after 22 years of marriage, I'm still trying to figure out the application.<br /><br />The problem is not in taking the passage literally, which is (I think) what Beach Bum was saying. Rather, it is that I might selfishly be more interested in the instructions for my wife than taking my own medicine seriously. May I never be that kind of husband, but I pray that I might learn to love my wife as Christ loved the church.<br /><br />I dare not say that I am willing to die for my wife if I am not first willing to live for her.Craver Viihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12882284402568264182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-56067609486405078562010-08-09T12:07:29.878-04:002010-08-09T12:07:29.878-04:00You shoulda slept in yesterday!
♥You shoulda slept in yesterday!<br /><br /><br />♥Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706844568750488890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-77796628534053014542010-08-09T11:22:29.183-04:002010-08-09T11:22:29.183-04:00While I do understand just how difficult it is to ...While I do understand just how difficult it is to get people to volunteer for Sunday School Teaching and the like it certainly would be nice if they were actually good at it. ;)<br /><br /><br />I think perhaps the most REAL interruptation of that verse is one of my hubby's favorite sayings, "Happy wife, happy life!" The end. :)Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14339665205284492242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-32481621436854721862010-08-09T09:50:07.999-04:002010-08-09T09:50:07.999-04:0099.9% of the time, it's easier to offer up you...99.9% of the time, it's easier to offer up your life than to offer up your sweat.<br /><br />I've always had a problem with people (lay and ordained) who pick and choose among biblical verses to get one that supports their particular viewpoint while ignoring, or discounting entirely, those that would cause them to act outside of their comfort zones. In particular, that section of Paul's writings always seemed to be one that folks would use to their own ends.<br /><br />As a lector in the Catholic church for a few years, it was my duty to read the chosen portions of scripture during mass. When that one was scheduled one Sunday, the priest celebrating mass that day told me to read only a certain segment of it, excluding the "wives be subservient" portion, because he didn't "want to open up that can of worms this morning." Well, damn it, Father, excuse me for saying so, but isn't it your job to open up those cans of worms? And explain WHY it's a can of worms, rather than just giving the faithful half a reading and then ignoring even that? I came very close to giving the full reading, anyway, but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what his homily (sermon) was about. It was the polite thing to do, but I'm still not sure if it was the right thing to do.Suldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07778845367184916684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-60367273949429125422010-08-09T08:14:38.299-04:002010-08-09T08:14:38.299-04:00And how was that particular remark received?And how was that particular remark received?Jazzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14644896022880634803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-33134597055903045102010-08-09T07:15:19.824-04:002010-08-09T07:15:19.824-04:00Don't get me started on lay teachers. We left...Don't get me started on lay teachers. We left our last church in part because of the awful person chosen to teach confirmation.Bijouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577723506036164914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-13391227760604124902010-08-09T06:57:26.244-04:002010-08-09T06:57:26.244-04:00Amen Sister Trini!!Amen Sister Trini!!G-Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14968807697181554781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-53226483082943875582010-08-09T06:54:53.216-04:002010-08-09T06:54:53.216-04:00Yeah, I hear you, and fair enough. . .
"Lay ...Yeah, I hear you, and fair enough. . .<br /><br /><i>"Lay down your life"</i> can have all manner of meaning this side of the Ultimate Sacrifice. Sweeping the kitchen floor, or changing a diaper can be ever-so-much more meaningful than a hypothetical Mack truck. . .<br /><br />Jen has been known to refer to 'Sweeping the Kitchen Floor' as 'Foreplay'. . . Just sayin'. . .Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044041773404411751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-19083856642710441452010-08-09T00:05:27.168-04:002010-08-09T00:05:27.168-04:00Amen sister!Amen sister!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03376726661081769681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-11404658239821126242010-08-08T23:51:41.391-04:002010-08-08T23:51:41.391-04:00I've always found it disturbing that there is ...I've always found it disturbing that there is little or no needed qualifications to be a "sunday school teacher" (and I use that to encompass all used terms). Why do I need someone else's personal scripture-spin? Isn't that the job of the ordained minister/preist/rabbi/guru/shaman?<br />I'm not knocking bible study but my preference would be to have such a session with peers and not a spiritual leader of any type. Just seems ripe for narrow, directional dogma...Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734473522246635749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17765202.post-31922220148886434062010-08-08T23:30:32.361-04:002010-08-08T23:30:32.361-04:00Well you've read enough of my stuff to know I ...Well you've read enough of my stuff to know I don't fair well with literal Bible interpretations or people who hold them. And you are right, a far more 20th-or dare I write a 21st-century example would have been more accurate and helpful.Commander Zaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000824454124236774noreply@blogger.com